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anonrising2018-01-19 07:16 pm
anonrisingcocomod) wrote in anonrising2018-01-19 07:16 pm
Yeah there's plenty to read about already let it just stop here.
it was blown out of proportion here on AR yeah, but i'm glad it was posted honestly
lets me know not to send to wind for pushes, because of the way they handled this mess
lets me know not to send to wind for pushes, because of the way they handled this mess
I know right... just geez. The first post was obviously a bad idea on that poor attendant's part, but the rest just... wow.
nayrt
you're going to judge an entire flight because one of their attendants snapped, which everyone windies included agrees was bad, and then someone went so far as to dig up their private sheet to actively look for things to shit on wind for. and then their pb lead apologized in public and might be stepping down to take responsibility.
ok, you do you
you're going to judge an entire flight because one of their attendants snapped, which everyone windies included agrees was bad, and then someone went so far as to dig up their private sheet to actively look for things to shit on wind for. and then their pb lead apologized in public and might be stepping down to take responsibility.
ok, you do you
they actually didn't take responsibility - this self flagellating nonsense reads more as pity me than an apology, considering the way they worded things before (and still have worded things)
an apology shouldn't be 'gosh im sorry, i fucked up so bad im sorry :((( im going to step down because im so bad'
it was all super unprofessional - first of all that selah came to AR to defend themselves anyway, which is NOT a mature move whatsoever
nowhere did i say i judge an entire flight. i'm withdrawing my support because this is how the dom team handles being supported, i find it very hard to believe it's just two people complaining about the dragons they're being sent and have no good reason to complain. much of the talk of "keep it in the private discord channels" lends much more to this idea as well, and THAT is why i won't be supporting - because i am not going to spend my time and energy on people who will complain that my support isn't good enough for them, and the 'trust' there has already been broken. i can take my level 1's and hatchlings and send them to another flight, because i can't run coli and level 1s are MY way to make money
me withdrawing my support doesn't mean anything for the flight itself, whether helpful or harmful, so i'm not sure why you're so salty about one person saying they don't want to support practices they don't agree with, when wind has shown their ass about them
an apology shouldn't be 'gosh im sorry, i fucked up so bad im sorry :((( im going to step down because im so bad'
it was all super unprofessional - first of all that selah came to AR to defend themselves anyway, which is NOT a mature move whatsoever
nowhere did i say i judge an entire flight. i'm withdrawing my support because this is how the dom team handles being supported, i find it very hard to believe it's just two people complaining about the dragons they're being sent and have no good reason to complain. much of the talk of "keep it in the private discord channels" lends much more to this idea as well, and THAT is why i won't be supporting - because i am not going to spend my time and energy on people who will complain that my support isn't good enough for them, and the 'trust' there has already been broken. i can take my level 1's and hatchlings and send them to another flight, because i can't run coli and level 1s are MY way to make money
me withdrawing my support doesn't mean anything for the flight itself, whether helpful or harmful, so i'm not sure why you're so salty about one person saying they don't want to support practices they don't agree with, when wind has shown their ass about them
yea I was just scrolling down and read the OP and it seemed like a normal whine to me.... until i saw (Hide 101 comments)
Isn't Wind like one of the biggest flights? How about you don't judge an entire flight based on like one or two dumbasses. It wasn't even the entire dom team I think. Like just one guy coming here and apologising because he fucked up. And that attendant who made the post in the first place.
and inb4, I'm not a Windy, I just think you're stupid.
and inb4, I'm not a Windy, I just think you're stupid.
I struggle with anxiety too, so I sympathize. Good on you for apologizing! I hope everything works out.
Also, I'd strongly suggest finding a therapist/psychiatrist/etc, if you have the means. It's nice to have someone to vent to, and a good therapist can also teach you how to deal with the anxiety. My own anxiety has gotten much more manageable ever since my therapist taught me how to recognize and work through my irrational thoughts.
Also, I'd strongly suggest finding a therapist/psychiatrist/etc, if you have the means. It's nice to have someone to vent to, and a good therapist can also teach you how to deal with the anxiety. My own anxiety has gotten much more manageable ever since my therapist taught me how to recognize and work through my irrational thoughts.
ayrt
i can assure you that this sorta complaining happens every once in a while in every flight. if there's a lone attendant or one of two, and you send them a level 1 flood they then need to direct to someone else while also accepting 60+ dragons from 4 other people, it's a natural reaction to scream, and the attendant will probably do it regardless if which flight they're in. it's obviously not your fault if you sent the dragons, hell no. you probably didn't even know that was an issue. but the attendant might want to yell and imo should be allowed to do so.
the attempt at damage control definitely could have gone better, but i don't think it was a disaster, i feel like the apology was sincere, and i appreciate the attempt. isn't this what some people want from light's dom leaders whenever one of their more vocal bad apples opens their mouth?
overall, i do understand where your approach comes from. when you want to help a flight's dom effort only to hear someone was whiny about it, it does not feel good. but as someone who's been in a couple flights, i promise this happens in most if not all of them when a lone attendant gets swamped, so i don't think it's fair to blame wind only because their complaining was dragged out. if you happen to send your dragons to "the other flight" in a bad moment, it'll probably happen there too, the flight will just probably be more careful to ensure it doesn't see the light of day.
i can assure you that this sorta complaining happens every once in a while in every flight. if there's a lone attendant or one of two, and you send them a level 1 flood they then need to direct to someone else while also accepting 60+ dragons from 4 other people, it's a natural reaction to scream, and the attendant will probably do it regardless if which flight they're in. it's obviously not your fault if you sent the dragons, hell no. you probably didn't even know that was an issue. but the attendant might want to yell and imo should be allowed to do so.
the attempt at damage control definitely could have gone better, but i don't think it was a disaster, i feel like the apology was sincere, and i appreciate the attempt. isn't this what some people want from light's dom leaders whenever one of their more vocal bad apples opens their mouth?
overall, i do understand where your approach comes from. when you want to help a flight's dom effort only to hear someone was whiny about it, it does not feel good. but as someone who's been in a couple flights, i promise this happens in most if not all of them when a lone attendant gets swamped, so i don't think it's fair to blame wind only because their complaining was dragged out. if you happen to send your dragons to "the other flight" in a bad moment, it'll probably happen there too, the flight will just probably be more careful to ensure it doesn't see the light of day.
I honestly don't give a fuck about this whole wind drama, I just wanted to say I think it's kinda funny that even tho we're all here being shitheads together, we'll antagonize someone for being here when their identity is revealed.
It's like we're part of a shitty costume party except no one's having fun, everyone hates each other, and the house is on fire.
It's like we're part of a shitty costume party except no one's having fun, everyone hates each other, and the house is on fire.
Calm the fuck down. It's the internet, and that was uncalled for.
i do know that, unfortunately this happens in many flights but i also know of a few dom teams who shut it down when it happens (gently! usually by staying positive rather than reprimanding). there are ways to remind your team that the negativity helps no one and, as has happened a few times before (on DR, AR, and the site itself) reflects badly on the flight and team
i personally feel that damage control in this case was unnecessary, and that wind team should really have communicated a lot better in this fiasco.. maybe someone would have told them not to respond, as doing so on AR never tends to go well for anyone involved. if it makes you feel any better, i don't like when light does it either! it's just my own personal feelings on the matter
(i do appreciate you being so civil with this, i was very blunt in my first post because i really didn't want to be the person who goes "here's all my FUCKING ISSUES" and then creates a wall, lol)
i know that FR is generally full of whiny people who complain about everything, even when they have no real claim to being pissed off about what they're complaining about, and it's why i've only got a small handful of flights i send fodder to. the rest of the time i just quietly flip dragons and keep to myself, which is why i think anyone being pissy (not you!) that some people like myself have decided this is something they don't want to deal with needs to get a grip on themselves (like the person who responded to my original post after you, lol)
like i said, my support legitimately means nothing in the grand scheme of things and it makes me feel better to know im not being shit talked behind my back for showing support the only way i really can. i think other dom teams should look at the shitshow that happened earlier and try to foster a more positive attitude about things rather than letting their team rage because they want something to bitch about
i personally feel that damage control in this case was unnecessary, and that wind team should really have communicated a lot better in this fiasco.. maybe someone would have told them not to respond, as doing so on AR never tends to go well for anyone involved. if it makes you feel any better, i don't like when light does it either! it's just my own personal feelings on the matter
(i do appreciate you being so civil with this, i was very blunt in my first post because i really didn't want to be the person who goes "here's all my FUCKING ISSUES" and then creates a wall, lol)
i know that FR is generally full of whiny people who complain about everything, even when they have no real claim to being pissed off about what they're complaining about, and it's why i've only got a small handful of flights i send fodder to. the rest of the time i just quietly flip dragons and keep to myself, which is why i think anyone being pissy (not you!) that some people like myself have decided this is something they don't want to deal with needs to get a grip on themselves (like the person who responded to my original post after you, lol)
like i said, my support legitimately means nothing in the grand scheme of things and it makes me feel better to know im not being shit talked behind my back for showing support the only way i really can. i think other dom teams should look at the shitshow that happened earlier and try to foster a more positive attitude about things rather than letting their team rage because they want something to bitch about
Screened blatantly inflammatory replies.
Debate and arguing is perfectly fine, but flat out degrading insults are not. Grow up, folks. (Or, if you're under 18, learn that calling people gross things does not make you an adult)
Debate and arguing is perfectly fine, but flat out degrading insults are not. Grow up, folks. (Or, if you're under 18, learn that calling people gross things does not make you an adult)
ayrt
friend from wind told me the gentle reprimanding and more positivity part happened in their discord as well, just... after the fact. so i hope they learn a lesson for the future from this. wind is very new to the realm of dom related drama because they hardly ever got any in the past, they probably weren't sure how to manage it well. experience, i suppose.
i think overall the damage control from dom leads is a complicated thing... some people demand it and shit on leaders for not saying anything, others shit on them when they do try to do something about it for taking the bait or whatever. i think selah would have gotten crap no matter what they did in this situation, just not directly if they hadn't revealed their name.
as for your support - a solo push like this is definitely more relaxed, but in a heated battle, every dragon counts! as someone who does attend to pbs, i can promise you that even if someone has a brief whine about getting swamped, the flight appreciates all the support in the long run.
i appreciate you being civil as well, i'm glad we can discuss it like this.
dom is emotions, man
friend from wind told me the gentle reprimanding and more positivity part happened in their discord as well, just... after the fact. so i hope they learn a lesson for the future from this. wind is very new to the realm of dom related drama because they hardly ever got any in the past, they probably weren't sure how to manage it well. experience, i suppose.
i think overall the damage control from dom leads is a complicated thing... some people demand it and shit on leaders for not saying anything, others shit on them when they do try to do something about it for taking the bait or whatever. i think selah would have gotten crap no matter what they did in this situation, just not directly if they hadn't revealed their name.
as for your support - a solo push like this is definitely more relaxed, but in a heated battle, every dragon counts! as someone who does attend to pbs, i can promise you that even if someone has a brief whine about getting swamped, the flight appreciates all the support in the long run.
i appreciate you being civil as well, i'm glad we can discuss it like this.
dom is emotions, man
gosh i really feel the dom is emotions thing haha. its like you cant walk two battles without tripping over some drama... and it still astounds me that there's so *much* drama surrounding dom? even though i really shouldn't be surprised, considering the amount of people on the site
i do agree that its almost always a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario... but in my honest opinion, better to keep your mouth closed lest you shove a foot in it and give people ammo to use against you / your flight (which will happen no matter what)
i dont have anything against any of the people involved /personally/, which is why i didnt participate upthread (especially after it was getting particularly nasty) and i wish them well + hope they learned a lesson or two to take back to mama, but something as rash as stepping down feels a bit too far to me. to fix your mistakes, you don't run! you stay, and show people you've changed
i do agree that its almost always a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario... but in my honest opinion, better to keep your mouth closed lest you shove a foot in it and give people ammo to use against you / your flight (which will happen no matter what)
i dont have anything against any of the people involved /personally/, which is why i didnt participate upthread (especially after it was getting particularly nasty) and i wish them well + hope they learned a lesson or two to take back to mama, but something as rash as stepping down feels a bit too far to me. to fix your mistakes, you don't run! you stay, and show people you've changed
some people actively look for drama, unfortunately, and then shit like this happens. if you want drama and there's none, you make it. when it comes to wind specifically, shoutout to them for their battles against earth/arcane/lightning being calm and friendly, but some other flights get shit flung their way every time they breathe a bit louder (isn't that right, light/plague) and it's just sad to watch.
like i said, i hope wind learns a lesson from this and shit like that doesn't happen to them again. wind friend told me selah got support and hopefully they just treat this as experience and don't step down.
like i said, i hope wind learns a lesson from this and shit like that doesn't happen to them again. wind friend told me selah got support and hopefully they just treat this as experience and don't step down.
It’s a really minor rant and people need to stop reading so far into it.
The “proper apology” stuff is such bullshit. It’s as if people actively want to stay angry. How about you actively strive to see the good in others and forgive instead? Especially when it’s over something so goddamn small and petty
The petty shit above reaffirms my reasoning for leaving Flight Rising.
People throwing a tantrum because one person won't say sorry in the exact way they expect it to be done, and threatening to boycott an entire Flight? Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Pathetic.
I have a feeling that the moderators are rolling their eyes out of their heads watching the same IPs being assholes.
People throwing a tantrum because one person won't say sorry in the exact way they expect it to be done, and threatening to boycott an entire Flight? Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Pathetic.
I have a feeling that the moderators are rolling their eyes out of their heads watching the same IPs being assholes.
Are you surprised? The majority of people on this site are children. They can't not overreact to...well, anything, really.
Watch them just prove my point.
Watch them just prove my point.
I stopped talking to this girl because she's plain toxic, lol. Her response was to move seats away from me in class which honestly I appreciate.
Today I messaged her to clarify about something in our Econs material, and eventually she got pretty annoyed and messaged me "Ur welcome" when I didn't reply for literally 2 mins (because guess what, I was looking through my school file!)
Not only that, but when I clicked on her profile to check if I was blocked, she had changed her status to "Whew high blood pressure" Like...I'm the one suffering high blood pressure talking to you.
I'm going to continue ignoring her as always I guess. It really does me no harm considering I have friends both within and outside of the class. She has insecurity issues about her other classmates who hang out with each other more than they hang out with her. Well, she can continue having insecurity issues if this (and the above comment) is how she behaves around other people.
NO ONE likes hanging out around someone who makes them feel like shit. No one likes talking to someone whose response, when you tell a story about your life, is to roll their eyes and act like it's something to be endured. No one likes someone who makes bitchy comments about every aspect of your personality.
On the bright side, being around someone this toxic helps me evaluate my own behavior towards others. I would never want to be like this person.
Today I messaged her to clarify about something in our Econs material, and eventually she got pretty annoyed and messaged me "Ur welcome" when I didn't reply for literally 2 mins (because guess what, I was looking through my school file!)
Not only that, but when I clicked on her profile to check if I was blocked, she had changed her status to "Whew high blood pressure" Like...I'm the one suffering high blood pressure talking to you.
I'm going to continue ignoring her as always I guess. It really does me no harm considering I have friends both within and outside of the class. She has insecurity issues about her other classmates who hang out with each other more than they hang out with her. Well, she can continue having insecurity issues if this (and the above comment) is how she behaves around other people.
NO ONE likes hanging out around someone who makes them feel like shit. No one likes talking to someone whose response, when you tell a story about your life, is to roll their eyes and act like it's something to be endured. No one likes someone who makes bitchy comments about every aspect of your personality.
On the bright side, being around someone this toxic helps me evaluate my own behavior towards others. I would never want to be like this person.
Agreed, I've had to step away countless times.
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